Monday, May 26, 2014

Memorial Day

Memorial Day was originally created as a way to honor men who died during their military service in the Civil War.
I like to remember those men on a regular basis, and to do so in a small way, I'm going to list the men in my immediate and closely extended family who died, or are believed to have died, while serving in the Civil War. Every one of these men is either a director ancestor/grandfather, a biological uncle, or a 1st cousin. For several months now, I have been undertaking the daunting task of identifying as many of my 1st cousins and uncles that served in the Civil War as possible. This list now includes over 400 names, and I am less than halfway through my tree. All of these men's service can be proven by Civil War service records, pensions, accounts by comrades, or sworn statements from immediate family members or neighbors.
There are many more on my list, but these are the men who died or are believed to have died during their service. Notice how very few of these men were actually killed in action, and even still relatively few from wounds sustained in actual battle. Most died of disease not related to having fought in battle, and a few died in POW camps. You'll also find one execution.

Grandfathers:

Calvin W. Selph - Missouri 12th Infantry (CON) - Did not return home from the war
Gassaway Snellgrove - Arkansas 18th Infantry (Marmaduke's) (CON) - Did not return home from the war

Biological uncles:

Cole Campbell - Kentucky 5th Mounted Infantry (CON) - "Accidentally shot" in 1862
James C. Epps - 1st Tennessee Infantry (CON) - Died of wounds at Chancellorsville, 8 May 1863
William B. Eversole - Kentucky 6th Cavalry (UN) - Died of disease at Cumberland at Cumberland Ford
Andrew Hash - Virginia 50th Infantry (CON) - Died of disease in Bland County, VA, 26 Jun 1862.
John Hash - 97th North Carolina Militia (CON) - Died of smallpox in February 1862
Adrian Hays - Arkansas 34th Infantry + 7th Militia (CON) - Family records indicate he did not come home from the war
Garner Holmes - Arkansas 31st Infantry (CON) - Died of wounds at Richmond, Kentucky
Richard C. Hutcheson - Unknown, most likely 14th Arkansas Infantry (CON) - Died of disease November 1862. Letter from Confederate surgeon who was courting and eventually married Richard's cousin confirms Richard's death, though no service record has been found for him.
William B. Manning - Texas 18th Cavalry (CON) - Died at the Confederate prison camp Camp Douglas in Chicago, IL on 16 Feb 1863
Richard Radford - Kentucky 7th Infantry (UN) - Died of consumption 26 May 1863 in Grand Gulf, Mississippi.
Andrew B. Rorie - Arkansas 3rd Cavalry (UN) - Died of chronic diarrhea 14 Jan 1865.
John H. Taylor - Kentucky 1st Cavalry (CON) - Died 26 Jun 1864 of disease in Cassville, GA.
John Wolf, Chaplain - Arkansas 14th Infantry (CON) - Died of sickness on duty in 1863.

1st cousins:

John E. Baker - California 3rd Infantry (UN) - Killed in battle with Indians, 29 Jan 1863.
Henry C. Barringer - North Carolina 5th Infantry (CON) - Killed 9 Nov 1862
Jacob A. Barringer - North Carolina 8th Infantry (CON) - Killed in Action, 20 Apr 1864 in Plymouth, NC
Edward L. Beaver - North Carolina 8th Infantry (CON) - Last official record states he was captured. Testimony of a comrade states he was KIA.
John D. Beaver - North Carolina 8th Infantry (CON) - Died of wounds at Globe Tavern in Aug 1864.
Moses W. Beaver - North Carolina 57th Infantry (CON) - Died 23 Sep 1862 in hospital in Richmond, VA.
James H. Binkley - Tennessee 20th Infantry (CON) - Died of pneumonia 2 Dec 1861 in Knoxville, TN.
John M. Binkley - Tennessee 20th Infantry (CON) - Died of measles 28 Nov 1861 in Knoxville, TN.
William Binkley - Tennessee 20th Infantry (CON) - Killed at Battle of Chickamauga, 13 Sep 1863.
George E. Boaz - Alabama 30th Infantry (CON) - Died of disease 3 Jan 1853 in Talladega, AL.
Sampson H. Boaz - Alabama 30th Infantry (CON) - Died 1 Aug 1862 in Tennessee.
William A. Denton - Arkansas 3rd Cavalry (UN) - Died 19 Jan 1864 of typhoid fever three mile from Little Rock, AR.
Franklin Dobbs - Georgia 34th Infantry (CON) - Died of wounds sustained at Vicksburg on 31 Oct 1862.
Joseph H. Dobbs - Alabama 10th Infantry (CON) - Died as POW at Point Lookout, MD
Silas M. Dobbs - Mississippi 31st Infantry (CON) - Died December 1864 in Franklin, TN of wounds.
William U. Dobbs - Alabama 21st Infantry (CON) - Died of disease as a POW on 8 Nov 1864 in Elmira, New York.
Daniel A. Eagle - Missouri 16th Infantry (CON) - Died 24 May 1863 of a fever at Little Rock, AR.
George Eagle - North Carolina 8th Infantry (CON) - Died of disease in Goldsboro, NC on 18 Dec 1862.
Moses W. Eagle - North Carolina 8th Infantry (CON) - Died in Goldsboro, NC on 29 Dec 1862.
John C. Eversole - Kentucky 14th Cavalry (UN) - Killed by Confederate guerrillas while on furlough on 2 May 1864. The home where he was killed is still standing and still riddled with bullet holes.
Woolery Eversole - Kentucky 8th Infantry (UN) - Died sick in Nashville, TN on 9 Oct 1862.
Andrew J. Fancher - Louisiana 9th Infantry (CON) - Died from being mortally wounded in June 1864 at Battle of Moncrary [Maryland].
Early A. Fancher - Alabama 10th Infantry (CON) - Last service record shows him sick with diarrhea in Sep 1861. His estate was assigned an administrator in Mar 1862, indicating he died in service.
John W. Fancher - Mississippi 41st Infantry (CON) - Died in hospital of acute dysentery in Georgia.
Lawrence D. Fancher - Alabama 20th Infantry (CON) - Wounded at Gettysburg, and died 25 Oct 1863 in Atlanta of "chronic disease".
Noah F. B. Fancher - Mississippi 31st Infantry and 1st Cavalry (CON) - Died 12 Oct 1864 in hospital in Macon County, Georgia.
David C. Gist - Aransas 5th Infantry (CON) - Killed in Action 31 Aug 1864 in Battle of Jonesboro [Georgia].
James Gist - Tennessee 2nd Mounted Infantry (UN) - One record says he was Killed in Action 14 Jan 1864 at Shoal Creek, Alabama. Another says he died of wounds on 14 Apr 1864 in Waling's Spring, Tennessee. I suspect he and his brother's records of death got mixed up at some point. (See below)
Levi Gist - Tennessee 2nd Mounted Infantry (UN) - One record says he was Killed in Action 14 Jan 1864 at Shoal Creek, Alabama. Another says he died of wounds on 14 Apr 1864 in Waling's Spring, Tennessee. I suspect he and his brother's records of death got mixed up at some point.
William A. Haddix - Kentucky 5th Mounted Infantry (CON) - One record states he died 10 Nov 1863 in Lewisville, GA. The other has no date, and just says he died in Cassville, GA.
Byron B. Hash - Virginia 50th Infantry (CON) - Taken prisoner at Gettysburg and died as a POW 26 Jan 1864 at Point Lookout, MD.
Elbert S. Hash - Virginia 51st Infantry (CON) - Missing in action and presumed dead 10 Feb 1862 at Fort Donelson.
Jerome C. Hash - Virginia 50th Infantry (CON) - Died 14 Feb 1862 in Kentucky.
Levi Hash - Virginia 51st Infantry (CON) - Died 12 Feb 1862 at home in Grayson County, Virginia of smallpox. Brought the smallpox home with him, eventually killing his mother, brother, and other immediate family members within weeks.
William C. Hash - Virginia 45th Infantry and 29th Infantry (CON) - Died at hospital in Richmond, VA on 10 Jun 1865.
John Hodge - Missouri 16th Infantry (CON) - Family records claim he died in service.
Andrew J. Hollis - Cocke's Arkansas Infantry (CON) - Died 27 Sep 1862.
Thomas L. Hollis - Mississippi 1st Cavalry (CON) - Died at Alton, Illinois Confederate Prison Camp on 1 Nov 1863.
Charles B. Holmes - Arkansas 21st Infantry (CON) - Died 7 Aug 1862.
Paul C. Jeter - Virginia 34th Infantry (CON) - Killed at Battle of Seven Pines on 31 May 1862.
William J. Jeter - Virginia 58th Infantry (CON) - Died of wound received at Cedar Run on 10 Aug 1862.
Alfred T. Jones - Virginia 64th Mounted Infantry (CON) - Died as POW at Camp Douglas in Chicago, Illinois on 9 Jan 1865.
Henry C. Jones - Virginia 50th Infantry (CON) - Died as POW at Fort Delaware
John G. Marks - Ohio 96th Infantry (UN) - Died at Columbus, Ohio on 15 Oct 1864.
John T. May - Indiana 22nd Infantry (UN) - Died 10 Nov 1862 in Louisville, KY.
Lafayette May - Indiana 22nd Infantry (UN) - Killed in action 8 Oct 1862 at Chaplin Hill, KY.
James McElhannon - Mississippi 2nd Infantry (CON) - Died of disease 4 Nov 1862 at Stanton, VA.
Leonidus H. Mitchell - Georgia 30th Infantry (CON) - Killed in Action 30 Nov 1864 in Franklin, Tennessee.
S. Daniel Mitchell - Georgia 30th Infantry (CON) - Died of disease 12 Sep 1862 in Savannah, GA.
Albert Mooney - Mississippi 7th Battalion (CON) - Executed by Captain Bayliss in October 1862 for desertion.
Kenyon H. Mooney - Mississippi 8th Infantry (CON) - Died of disease at Tullahoma, TN on 20 Nov 1862.
Reuben Mooney - Mississippi 7th Battalion (CON) - Left at hospital in Sep 1862 and "not heard of since". Apparently died, as his widowed applied for assistance in Apr 1863.
Jacob A. Moose - North Carolina 28th Infantry (CON) - Died 28 Jul 1865.
George W. Napier - Virginia 19th Infantry (CON) - Died in service 30 Jun 1862; unable to read the place he died in the record.
Eli W. Peck - North Carolina 8th Infantry (CON) - Died as POW at Elmira Prison [New York] on 7 Oct 1864.
Julius Peck - North Carolina 5th Infantry (CON) - Shot in the head at Gettysburg. Left "in the hands of the enemy" and succumbed to his wounds on 6 Jul 1863.
John Powell - Mississippi 33rd Infantry (CON) - Killed at Franklin, TN on 30 Nov 1864. Was a Captain and acting Major at the time of his death.
Joseph Powell - Edwards' Louisiana Battalion (CON) - Died 10 Mar 1865. Apparently died on his way home after being released as a POW.
Elisha Russell - Missouri 11th Infantry, 8th Battalion Infantry, and 9th Infantry (CON) - Died of congestive chill in 1864, according to family records.
Harvey Rutherford - Virginia 51st Infantry (CON) - Died circa May 1863. "Present" for Mar/Apr 1863 Muster Roll, "Died" by May/Jun muster roll.
George M. Sain - Tennessee 16th Infantry (CON) - Killed 1 Jul 1861, no details on death.
William M. Sain - Tennessee 35th Infantry (CON) - Died March 1862; no details on death provided.
Eli A. Smith - Missouri 5th Infantry (CON) - Died of wounds at Corinth, MS. Service records give two dates: once gives 5 Oct 1862, next gives 12 Oct 1862. Family bible record gives 10 Oct 1862.
Joseph W. Spradlin - Georgia 41st Infantry (CON) - Died of disease 5 Apr 1862.
Newton Spradlin - Georgia 63rd Infantry (CON) - Died of disease 4 Apr 1863.
Jacob Whitesell - Tennessee 41st Infantry (CON) - Last record shows him left sick at Bowling Green, KY in Jan 1862. Does not appear in records after that; appears likely he died in service.
William W. Whitesell - Confederate 1st Cavalry (CON) - Killed at Battle of Shiloh on 6 Apr 1862.
Jacob R. Wilhoite - Tennessee 17th Infantry (CON) - Killed during Chattanooga campaign, 24 Oct 1863.
John B. Young - North Carolina 37th Infantry (CON) - Died Apr 1862 of disease.

Saturday, May 3, 2014

Ancestors and Descendants of Peter Ribelin

As is the case with many of my early North Carolina families, there is a lack of documentation connecting various generations. So I have set out to try and connect them with as much documentation as possible. Where the documentation is non-existent, I will be seeking out a suitable amount of circumstantial evidence, enough at least to convince myself if not others.

One such troubling family is my Ribelin family of Rowan County, North Carolina. I recently found a deed which appears to show 6 of the 7 heirs of my ancestor Peter Ribelin, and that got me to looking into the documentation tying Peter to his father. Unfortunately, there isn't any. Peter's father is believed to be Martin Ribelin, who died and left a will in Rowan County in 1793. Martin's will does not name a son, Peter. He names children Martin, Jacob, Anna, Elizabeth, Sarah, Susanna, and Rachel.

As it turns out, however, it appears that Martin likely had multiple children who were not named as heirs in his will. This may have been for a number of reasons. The most likely of which is that he gave each child their portion of his estate when they came of age, married, or else moved away. This has happened many times in many other families. There is a solid amount of evidence indicating that Martin had a daughter named Katharine who married an Adam Kern,and Martin did act as the bondsman for the marriage of a William Ribelin in 1779 in Rowan County. These facts appear to indicate that he had at least two children who were not named in his will, so why could Peter not be a third?

The fact is, Martin Ribelin was basically the only known Ribelin progenitor in North Carolina, and perhaps in all of the United States. It is shown that he came to America on the ship Duke of Wirtemberg and received at the Philadelphia Court House on 20 Oct 1752. His name was listed as "Hans Martin Raible". He also came with a brother, Johannis Reiblen. What became of this brother is unknown, but no descendants of his have been identified, so it is fair to name Martin Ribelin the sole progenitor of the name Ribelin in America. His name and the names of his descendants were spelled a number of different ways in early records, including Ribline, Ribley, Raiblin, Reblin, Riblin, Ribling, and more. They seem to have all eventually settled with Ribelin.

The argument for attaching Katharine, wife of Adam Kern, to Martin Riblin is presented in The Kern Family of Rowan County, NC, Nicholas, KY, Indiana, Iowa (Mary Margaret Kern, 1968). The argument for attaching William, as previously mentioned, primarily hinges on the facts that Martin acted as William's bondsman when he married, and the fact that Martin was pretty much the only Ribelin around. (More information on William Ribelin can be found here: http://www.reocities.com/dkiker_liddell/KIKER_PAGE/Keicher_Sisters.htm). There is no documentation like William's marriage record for attaching Peter to Martin, so virtually the only argument here is that Martin was the only man around who could have been Peter's father.

Jacob Ribelin is named in Martin's will. Peter's grandson Jesse Ribelin, son of Isaac, named one of his sons Jacob Asa Ribelin. Asa Ribelin was a well-known teacher in Rowan County, and was a son of Jacob Ribelin. Jacob Ribelin was also supposedly a gunsmith, a trade which was shared by Isaac Ribelin and his son Jesse. These bits of loose circumstantial evidence are not much for connecting Peter to Martin, but unfortunately that's about all that can be done.

DNA evidence has not confirmed much as of yet. My grand uncle Ronnie Moose's DNA sample came back with "Very Low" confidence matches to four descendants of Katherine Ribelin who married Adam Kern. But they did yield a "Moderate" confidence match to a descendant of Rosannah Ribelin, daughter of William Ribelin for whom Martin was the bondsman for his marriage. This is encouraging, but not definitive. Matches to more descendants of the Ribelins can help confirm Peter's lineage eventually.

It should be noted that Martin Ribelin's wife's name is not known; most have it as "Anna", but not identified a source for this name. Similarly, Peter's first wife's name (or wives' names) is not known. He remarried to a Nancy Johnson on 27 Oct 1814, but it does not appear they had any children together, as they have no young children in their household in 1820.

I have found little written on the children of Peter Ribelin, so I wanted to share this deed which names 6 of his 7 heirs.

This was taken from "Abstracts of Deed Books 30-34 of Rowan County, North Carolina 1828-1840", compiled by the Genealogical Society of Rowan County.

On 28 Oct 1830 [in Rowan County], Isaac Ribelin, John Linn/Lynn and wife Catherine, Henry Barger [Note: Should be Barrier] and wife Elizabeth, William Cox and wife Rachel, and David McMackin and wife Susanna sold their portions of Peter Ribelin's estate to their apparent brother, Samuel Ribelin.

Each were entitled to 1/7 part of the property. This means that there was a 7th child in this family who has not yet been identified. This 7th was most likely a son, as Samuel and Isaac make two, but Peter's 1810 Census shows two sons under ten and one son 10-15. The marriages for Isaac, Samuel, Elizabeth, Rachel, and Susanna can be found with various spellings of Ribelin. I could not find the marriage of Catherine to John Linn/Lynn. I could only find Susanna still living in 1850, when she is enumerated in Rowan County.

Any researchers wishing to exchange information on the Ribelins can feel free to contact me.

Sorting out my Eagle/Agle/Egle lineage in Rowan and Cabarrus Counties, NC

For a while now, I have not been satisfied with the documentation, or lack there of, connecting my ancestress Mary "Polly" Eagle Ribelin to her parents. The assertion many online trees and published genealogies have made is that she was the daughter of George Eagle and a Mary Magdeline Susannah Huldermar/Haldeman/Holdeman. I had several problems with this assertion, the primary one being that I could find no definitive documentation connecting Mary to George, who died in newton County, Missouri in 1864 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=EA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=26&GScntry=4&GSsr=1361&GRid=6429358&). Further, I've taken issue with the assertion that the "Mary Magdeline" that George is shown to be married to after 1850 being the same "Susanah Haldeman" he married in 1802. Beyond that, I also took issue with George being labeled the son of another George Eagle, as there similarly appeared to be a complete lack of documentation proving this. So I took it upon myself to see if I could prove or disprove any of these assertions, or at least add possible alternate scenarios.

It appears the definitive resource for Eagle family genealogy has been "Pennsylvania Genealogies; Chiefly Scotch-Irish and German.", first published in 1886 by renowned Pennsylvania historian William Henry Egle. (https://archive.org/details/cu31924028856900) Mr. Egle has a Marcus Egle as the progenitor of the Eagle family of Pennsylvania. According to Egle's book, Marcus was from Zurich, Switzerland and settled in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where he had four children that have been identified: John, Caspar, Adam, and Susannah. He begins to give outlines of each family to the best of his knowledge; unfortunately, he does not cite many primary sources. He states that Marcus's son Adam had three sons: John, George, and Phillip, who each later immigrated to Rowan County, North Carolina. I do not take issue with this assertion, as all three men appear in the 1800 Census of Rowan County and in probate records there. He does not detail John's progeny beyond stating he had sons named David and John.

Egle goes into great detail outlining Phillip's descendants, and he lists three children for George: daughters Mary and Margaret, and George who married the woman he lists as "Mary Haldeman". Since he did not list his sources, it is difficult to ascertain how he came up with this lineage. It is likely fair to assume that the three early Rowan County Egle/Eagle's were brothers, and though I have not located specific proof of this, I will tentatively agree with the conclusion unless proven otherwise. Also, none of these three probable-brothers left wills behind naming their heirs, though there are estate files in their name. After looking through these estate files and a couple of other basic records, the first undocumented conclusion of this book I would like to dissect is that George, son of Adam, was the father of George who d. in Newton County, Missouri.

After some simple searching, I have concluded that this George who d. in Missouri is really the son of John, rather than George. George's headstone, which is located in McDonald County, Missouri, gives his date of birth as 25 Dec 1781. This is consistent with the 1850 Census which has him born about 1783, and the 1860 Census, which has him born about 1782. This would put him in the 17-19 age range in 1800. As it turns out, only one of the three brothers has a male in his household in the 16-25 age range: John Egle. Further, the bondsman for George's marriage to Susanah Haldeman was: John Egle. John died in 1806, and a George Egle is named the administrator of his estate. I can't find definitively whether this would be George b. 1781 or John's brother George, but it can assumed with relative certainty that it was his son, George b. 1781, based on an 1813 deed.

On January 18, 1813, George Eagle, Samuel Albright and his wife, Elisabeth, Catharine Eagle [Note: This is likely the Caty Eagle who m. Jacob Mowrie on 6 Apr 1814 in Rowan County], John Smith and wife, Eave, George House and wife, Margaret, all of Rowan County and heirs of John Eagle, dec'd, to Michael Isehower land in Cabarrus County (land on Ruben's Branch of English Buffalo Creek). This proves that John had a son named George, and combined with the above information, it appears clear that this son was George b. 1781. John's brother George, long assumed to be the father of George b. 1781, did also have a son named George. On 28 Feb 1818, George Eagle Sr. gifted 100 acres on Dutch Buffalo Creek in Rowan County to his son George Eagle Jr. This was certainly George who was born about 1799; he was most likely being gifted the land for coming of age.

By 1818 when that deed occurred, George b. 1781 was likely already in Cabarrus County where he is found in the 1820 Census. I base this assertion on the fact that only one George Eagle appears on the 1815 Rowan County tax list, and based on his proximity to Phillip, it is almost certainly George Eagle Sr. [http://www.ncgenealogy.org/publications/ncgs-journal/ncgs-journal-2000-2004/ncgs-journal-2004/201-ncgs-journal-vol-xxx-no-3-august-2004-1/file]

Now that I've established George b. 1781's parentage, I want to look at what we know about him and work toward attempting to connecting him to my Mary. At the very least, I would like to connect her to other Eagles who in turn could be connected to George, or else rule her out as a potential daughter for two other Eagle men who could have been her father. So I am going to split the remainder of this narrative into six sections:

I. What do we know about George Eagle, b. 1781?
II. Could anyone besides George b. 1781 be Mary Eagle Ribelin's father?
III. How else can Mary be directly or indirectly tied to George b. 1781?
IV. Could anyone besides George b. 1781 be Solomon Eagle's father?
V. DNA Evidence
VI. Are Susannah and Mary Magdeline the same woman?

I. What do we know about George Eagle, b. 1781?


George appears in the 1810 Census in Rowan County; after that, he is found in Cabarrus County in 1820-1850, and finally in Newton County, Missouri in 1860. He is living with the family of his son, Moses, in 1850 and 1860, along with his wife, who is listed as Mary M. in 1850 and Magdeline in 1860. Whether this is the same woman as the Susanah Holdeman he married in 1802 has yet to be determined with absolute certainty.

His headstone in McDonald County, MO gives his year of birth as 1781, while his 1850 and 1860 Census records give his approximate year as 1783 and 1782, respectively. His known children are: Leah (m. John Peck), Elizabeth (m. Isaac Beaver), John b. 1813, George Adam, Sophia, and Moses. All of these children with the exceptions of Elizabeth and John b. 1813 migrated to Newton County, Missouri along with George and his wife. Elizabeth's son, Daniel Beaver, made the trip to Missouri with his grandparents and relatives, and Elizabeth fits with George's Census records and came to Cabarrus County with him from Rowan. John also fits George's Census records, moved to Cabarrus with him, and actually took up the same profession as George, which was gunsmithing.

[Note: No marriage record has been found for George's daughter Sophia, who married Jesse Hodge. But her maiden name can be proven by her son George's and son Daniel's death certificates in Missouri, which give their mother's name as Sophia Eagle. Her daughter Agnes's 1949 Texas death certificate also gives her mother's name as Sophia Eagle. She is buried in the same cemetery as her parents and her siblings George Adam and Leah.]

George and John were both highly respected gunsmiths in their geographic area. Some of their rifles are still surviving today and fetch thousands of dollars. One of John's rifles is on display at the Museum of Early Southern Decorative Arts in Salem, NC. [http://www.mesda.org/collections/silver_sprite/mesda_longrifle.html]


George's rifles are equally revered and collectible. Photographs of one of his rifles can be found here: http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2011/05/2011-33rd-tennessee-kentucky-rifle-show_23.html.

This shared profession, along with John's fit with George's census records and geographic locale make him an almost certain son of George. Additionally, John doesn't actually fit in the household of any other Eagle man in the 1830 Census, as well be discussed later, which further solidifies the near certainty that he is indeed George's son.

The other two children typically attached to George are Solomon Eagle and Mary "Polly" Eagle who married Isaac Ribelin. As George did not leave behind any estate records that we know of, putting together his family has been done mostly by logical deduction and circumstantial evidence, or at least that's how it appears to me. Several published accounts of the Eagle family over several decades have listed George with these eight children, and for the most part, the family fits together pretty straight forwardly. They all match with George's census records, and as shown above, most can be attached to him by geographic movements and other means. However, all of these same published accounts list George as the son of George Sr., and as I have proven above, he was the son George Sr.'s brother John. So if they can be wrong about that, they could be wrong about his children as well.

Fitting Solomon and Mary into George's family isn't as simple as fitting in the other children. For one thing, the six more or less confirmed children all lived in Cabarrus County with George at one time or another. However, Solomon and Mary were firmly rooted in neighboring Rowan County for their adult lives from their marriages on. It would be easier in some ways to conclude they were the children of either George Sr. or Phillip (being the only two Eagles in NC old enough besides John who had his own daughter Mary to be the father of Mary), or that Solomon (born in 1811) could be the son of one of George's or Phillip's eldest sons. But they have been attached to George b. 1781, and therefore I have become determined to show with as much conviction as possible that they do indeed belong to George b. 1781's family. So I have set out to do so, and I will share my evidence and conclusions below.

II. Could anyone besides George b. 1781 be Mary Eagle Ribelin's father?


Mary "Polly" Eagle who married Isaac Ribelin was born about 1807, according to her headstone, which states she died in 1878 at age 71. In order to rule out other Eagles as Mary's father, we can start with looking at the four other "elder" Eagles found in Rowan and Cabarrus counties in 1850 besides George b. 1781: Peter (1794), John (1790), George (1799), and John (1794). Obviously all four of these men are too young to have been Mary's father, as even the eldest of them, John b. 1790, would have been only 17 at her birth and neither he nor John b. 1794, nor Peter have a female over age 10 in their 1820 households.

George b. 1781 is the only one of the elder Eagles living in 1850 who was really old enough to be Mary's father, but that doesn't mean one of the other eldest Eagles could not have been. The previously mentioned deed listing John Eagle's heirs includes a daughter named Mary who was married to Samuel Albright, which means John is not this Mary's father. In the 1810 Census, George b. 1781 has 3 daughters under age 10, while George Sr. has one and Phillip has two. This leaves open the possibility that George Sr. or Phillip could be Mary's father.

In the 1820 Census, George's under age 10 female from the 1810 Census is now in the 16-26 age range, making her too old to be Mary. It is unclear who this female is; she may be the Jane Eagle who married Archibald Gibson in Rowan County on 7 Oct 1828, as it does not appear this Jane has been connected to any particular family, but as she not found in other records we can not ascertain her age so we can really only guess as to where she belongs. Phillip's two daughters from the 1810 Census appear in 1820 in the 10-16 age range, leaving open the possibility that one of them could be Mary. It is certain that one of them is Esther Eagle who married Thomas Franklin Bain on 14 Mar 1829. Esther and her husband followed the majority of Phillip's children after his death to Maury County, Tennessee; John b. 1794 and James who later moved to Mecklenburg County.

According to William Henry Egle's "Pennsylvania Genealogies", this second daughter would be an Elizabeth Eagle who married a Simeon Lutz and had at least two children by him. I have not found any record of a daughter Elizabeth, nor of her husband Simeon Lutz or their supposed children, Henry and Sophia. Egle's genealogy has been proven to be imperfect, but his work on Phillip Eagle's descendants is mostly solid and verifiable, so I am inclined to believe Egle that the second 10-16 year old female in Phillip's 1820 household is indeed Elizabeth. However, as Elizabeth's existence has not yet been proven with documentation, it leaves open the small possibility that Mary could be Phillip's daughter. But since by 1840, all of Phillip's other descendants were either in Maury County, Tennessee or else Cabarrus (John b. 1794) or Meckelnburg (James) counties, it seems unlikely that Mary would have stayed behind and not gone to be nearer any of her immediate family if she were indeed a part of Phillip's brood.

Having reduced the probability that anyone but George b. 1781 could be Mary's father to almost none, we must now ask ourselves:

III. How else can Mary be directly or indirectly tied to George b. 1781?


By now, we've covered the facts that Mary cannot be tied to George b. 1781 with documentation or even really with geographic proximity, but she does fit into his family's census records. So how else can we show Mary to be connected with George b. 1781? For me, it starts with her marriage.

Mary married Isaac Ribelin on 10 Aug 1822 in Rowan County. The fact that she married Isaac in Rowan County has always struck me as strange since by 1820, George b. 1781 was in Cabarrus County and she would seemingly be one of the 10-16 year old females in his 1820 household there. But it would certainly not be unheard of for someone to get married in a county adjacent to where they are living, especially when they were born in that county and lived their early life there. The bondsman for this marriage is an important clue; the bondsman's name was George Vogler. Like Eagle, Vogler was a celebrated gunsmith. He moved to Rowan County in about 1815, having apprenticed under his uncle, Christopher Vogler, in Salem, NC. Information on Vogler and a picture of one of his guns can be found here: http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2011/05/2011-33rd-tennessee-kentucky-rifle-show_23.html

It is likely that all of the gunsmiths in early Rowan county were well-acquainted with one another, if not friends. This assertion is even further supported by the fact that yet another celebrated gunsmith of Rowan County was none other than Mary's husband, Isaac Ribelin. The same blog I have linked to multiple times has information on Isaac's work and a picture of one of his rifles.

This common link between George Eagle, George Vogler, and Isaac Ribelin is an important one. I think it is possible, if not probable, that Isaac apprenticed under George Eagle, which is where he probably learned the gunsmith trade. This is purely conjecture, but George b. 1781's 1810 household includes an unidentified male under the of 10; is it not possible that this could be Isaac Ribelin, b. 1800, appearing in the household as George's apprentice? It's a possibility, but not something that I could prove. Regardless, the fact that George b. 1781 was a gunsmith, and that Mary married another gunsmith while a 3rd gunsmith acted as bondsman for said marriage points to the likelihood that Mary was indeed George's daughter.

Mary can also be succinctly connected to Solomon Eagle, who as previously mentioned is in a similar boat to Mary in that he cannot be attached to George b. 1781 by documentation or geographic proximity, though he fits in George's early census records and has been attached to George in many published genealogies. Mary's husband, Isaac Ribelin, acted as the bondsman for Solomon's 18 Dec 1834 marriage to Agnes N. Hodge in Rowan County. Once again, it is curious that Solomon married in Rowan County when he would have been living in Cabarrus, but it is not unheard of. Solomon appears to have lived the remainder of his adult life in Rowan County, as did Mary.

It would be nice if Solomon were also a gunsmith, which would tie him even more firmly to George b. 1781, but in the 1850 Census he is listed as a cooper, who was a person who made and repaired casks and barrels. However, in that census he is living next door to another gunsmith: Jesse Ribelin, the eldest son of Mary and Isaac, who clearly picked up the trade from his father. Further, Solomon is buried mere feet from Mary in Saint Matthew's Lutheran Church Cemetery. According to their records, Solomon is buried in Row 3, Plot 15, while Mary is buried in Row 4, plot 22 which means they are laid to rest not just in the same cemetery but within a few yards of one another. [http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/rowan/cemeteries/stmatthw.txt]

These facts appear to tie Mary and Solomon together as siblings, which then leads us to out next quandary:

IV. Could anyone besides George b. 1781 be Solomon Eagle's father?


According to his headstone, Solomon Eagle was born 14 Jun 1811. This would mean he would be enumerated as an under 10 male in the 1820 Census, and as a 15-20 year old male in the 1830 Census. Fortunately, this makes finding him fairly straightforward. In the 1820 Census, Phillip's son Joseph, who is living in Cabarrus County, has 3 sons under age 10, while Peter, John b. 1790, and John b. 1794 each have one, and our George b. 1781 has 3. George Sr. and Phillip have no males in their households under the age of 16.

The eldest sons of Peter, John b. 1790, and John b. 1794 have not been identified the majority of Eagle genealogies as best as I have ascertained. In fact, after having identified each of these sons myself, I found that little can be found about them online, and when I did find them online, no one had bothered to attach them to their fathers. So I believe I have identified the sons of these three men who were born between 1810 and 1820. None of these men left wills, so obviously these connections are circumstantial, but I think my cases for each of them is as strong as one could hope for.

1. Peter's son under age 10 in the 1820 Census is almost certainly David Eagle, who was born about 1816 and can be found in Rowan County census records in 1850 and 1860. David was a little difficult to place because while he was living next door to Peter in the 1840 Census, in 1850 he was living next door to Peter's brother John b. 1790 who also would have had a son David's age. It wasn't until I had identified John's son who was David's age that I felt sure David was Peter's son. Peter and David living next door to one another in 1840 in combination with the evidence regarding who John b. 1790's son is is good enough for me.

2. John b. 1790's son was almost certainly John A. Eagle. John A. Eagle married Barbary A. Lorets in Rowan County on 4 Feb 1845. In 1850, they are found living Ouachita County, Arkansas. John's Census records in 1850 and 1860 put his age at about 1820, so he would be the "under 10" in John b. 1790's 1820 household, the 5-10 year old in his 1830 household, and the 20-30 year old in his 1840 household. The reason I have connected John A. to John b. 1790 is because by 1860 another of John b. 1790's sons can be found in Ouachita County, Arkansas: his next eldest, Daniel M. Eagle, who was born about 1833. He can be found enumerated as "D M Eagle" in Ouachita County in 1860, while in 1850 he was still living in his father's home.

This circumstantial evidence is strong enough for me to tie John A. to John. Further, John b. 1790's 1840 Census proves that his "under 10" son from 1820 was still living with him as a 20-30 year old male. The above-mentioned David already had his own household by 1840 when he was living next to Peter, while Peter's son who was under 10 in 1820 is not still residing with him.

3. The son of John b. 1794, who was a son of Phillip and moved to Cabarrus County between 1830 and 1840, was certainly Daniel Eagle. Though his census records have him being born anywhere from 1815 to 1817, Daniel's enlistment records when he joined the 4th North Carolina Senior Reserves in the Civil War gives his age as 44 years, 10 months, and 17 days on the day he enlisted, 29 Jun 1864. This would make his date of birth 12 Aug 1819. The record gave his place of birth as Rowan County. Daniel is the only Eagle male born between 1810 and 1820 who is found in Cabarrus County census records with the exceptions of George b. 1781's sons John b. 1813 and George Adam. Further, like the above John b. 1790, John b. 1794 still has a 20-30 year old son in the 1840 Census in Cabarrus County, and Daniel did not have his own household that year which points to the strong likelihood that Daniel was the 20-30 year old male in John b. 1794's household.

For the identifications of Joseph Eagle's 3 sons under the age of 10 in the 1820 Census, we can refer back to Egle's "Pennsylvania Genealogies". Joseph's is another of the lines that appears to have been thoroughly researched, and can likely be trusted. Egle attributes 3 sons who were born between 1810 and 1820 to Joseph: James, born 24 Mar 1813, and Phillip and Henry, twins born in 1817. James and Henry can be firmly tied to Joseph, and while Phillip died young the fact that he married a sister of James's wife raises the probability that he was indeed Joseph's son rather than a son of one of Joseph's brothers.

It should be noted that Joseph's 1820 household also includes a 10-16 year old male who has not been identified. A marriage record for Joseph and his wife, Rosena Furr, has not been found. Some online sources give their date of marriage as 11 Apr 1811 in Cabarrus County, but this marriage is not found in Rowan County's marriage register. [http://www.cabarruscounty.us/government/departments/library/Local%20History/1793-1868_Marriage_Bonds.pdf] Rosena was previously married to George Klutts on 13 May 1807 in Cabarrus. The 10-16 year old male could have been a product of her first marriage, or else could have been on of Joseph's brothers. Some genealogies (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/p/Linda-Spires-Mcpherson/PDFGENE22.pdf) claim the family also had a son named George b. about 1811, but no documentation of this George has been discovered.

Further, most Eagle genealogies attribute the aforementioned John Eagle b. 1790 as a son of Phillip. This appears to have been done primarily because this John married Sophia Furr, a sister of the above mentioned Rosena Furr, both daughters of Henry Furr. Henry Furr even names his son-in-law John Eagle the executor of his estate. And Joseph Eagle acted as the bondsman for John's marriage to Sophia. People appear to have assumed this was a case of a pair of brothers marrying a pair of sisters, which was not uncommon in these days. However, I think it is more likely that John and Joseph were first cousins. First of all, John who married Sophia, while he married in Cabarrus County, appears to have resided in Rowan County all of his life. He is always found to be very near Peter and George Jr., and I believe the three of them are the three sons of George Sr. who are found in his 1800 and 1810 households. I believe John b. 1794 is the son of Phillip because he migrated to Cabarrus from Rowan County along with his brother, Joseph.

It is certainly possible that I have these two John's mixed up at John b. 1790 of Rowan is the son of Phillip and John b. 1794 of Cabarrus is the son of George Sr., but the remarkably close proximity in which John of Rowan lived with Peter and George Jr. leads me to strongly believe that he is their brother, rather than their 1st cousin.

Now that we have seemingly identified all of the under age 10 male Eagles from the 1820 Census, we can take it a step further. As previously stated, in 1830 Solomon Eagle would have been in the 15-20 age range, and as stated even earlier, John b. 1813 would have also been in the 15-20 age range. As it turns out, there is only two Eagle households in 1830 with males between the ages of 15 and 20: George b. 1781 and Joseph, son of Phillip. As Joseph's 15-20 year old son has already been firmly identified as James Eagle, born 24 Mar 1813, that leads us to a logical conclusion that the two 15-20 year old males in George b. 1781's 1830 household must be Solomon b. 1811 and John b. 1813.

Again, all of this is circumstantial evidence, but it would appear that since Solomon and Mary are pretty firmly connected together, and they cannot fit into any other Eagle household but George b. 1781's, they logically must be the son and daughter of George Eagle b. 1781. There is also one more way we can confirm that Mary was indeed the daughter of George b. 1781, and that is by look at:

V. DNA Evidence


I have collected a DNA sample from my grand uncle, Dr. Robert Ronald "Ronnie" Moose, M.D. He is the son of Robert Royer Moose, son of Adolphus Franklin Moose, son of Sarah Jane Ribelin, daughter of Isaac Ribelin and Mary Eagle. This would make Isaac and Mary his great great grandparents. The Ancestry DNA test picks up familial relationships very well within 5 generations, and relatively well up to 8 generations. As Ronnie's relationship to Isaac and Mary is within 5 generations, one can assume that his Eagle connections will be quite accurate.

Ronnie had two matches that came back at 96% confidence, predicting a relationship of 4th-6th cousins.

The first was to a user name stoweanne. She appears to be a 6th cousin of Ronnie, as she descends directly from Rachel Eagle McNeely, daughter of Phillip Eagle, son of Adam Eagle. Ronnie's second match was even more promising, as it showed him to be a 4th cousin once removed of user brentley_clark, a direct descendant of Sophia Eagle who married Jesse Hodge, a daughter of George Eagle b. 1781. This match further solidifies my conviction that despite the lack of strong documentation proving the relationship, Mary "Polly" Eagle, wife of Isaac Ribelin, is indeed a daughter of George Eagle b. 1781.

Ronnie's DNA evidence also lent some assistance to another mysterious question, one regarding George b. 1781's wife, which is:

VI. Are Susannah and Mary Magdeline the same woman?


On 18 Oct 1802, George Eagle is shown to have married a Susannah Haldeman, a surname of Mennonite origin which has been found to be spelled in a number of variations including Holdeman, Halterman, and other similar spellings. Pastor Storch's records list her as "Sus." However, by 1850 George's wife's name in the census is Mary M., and in 1860 she is listed as "Magdeline". Her headstone lists her as "Mary M. Eagle". Most Eagle researchers label her as "Mary Magdelin Susannah", but I am suspicious of this, as it seems more likely that Susannah was a first wife who passed away and then George remarried to a Mary Magdeline.

The evidence to the contrary of that sentiment is, however, quite strong. First of all, Cabarrus County kept very accurate marriage records, and there is no record of George remarrying. Second of all, in 1820 George is found two households from a Paul Nussman in Rowan County. Thirty years later in neighboring Cabarrus County, George is found living next door to Paul Nussman. And who was Paul Nussman's wife? Why, none other than a Hannah Haldeman, whom he married in Cabarrus County on 20 Aug 1810. It seems unlikely that George would live in such close proximity to Paul Nussman and his wife Hannah for so long if it were George's former wife who was a Haldeman and not his current one. This lends credence to the assertion that Susannah and Mary Magdeline were one in the same.

Further, both Mary and Hannah in the 1850 Census claim to have been born in Pennsylvania. This is where the Haldeman family originated, as did most early Mennonites.

Marlene DiGiovanni, a longtime genealogical researcher of the Eagle family and descendant of Leah Eagle, daughter of George b. 1781, who married Isaac Beaver, asserts that it was not uncommon for a person's given Christian name and their personal name among their family members to be different. She believes strongly that Mary Magdeline and Susannah are one in the same, and I am inclined to agree with her despite the lack of documentation proving this assertion.

Three other Haldemans are found in Cabarrus County records in addition to Hannah and Mary/Susannah. An Elizabeth Haldeman married a William Groner or Croner in Cabarrus County on 19 Jan 1795. A Christian Halteman/Halterman married a Mary Schmidt/Smith on 1 Sep 1800 in Cabarrus County, and is found in Cabarrus County census records in 1810, 1820, and 1830. His eldest and only identified son was Abraham Halterman who appears in several Cabarrus County records. It is interesting to note as well that Pastor Storch's records state that he buried an Abraham Haldeman in 1798.

A researcher named Donna Basinger who has thoroughly researched many Haldeman Mennonite families believes that this Abraham was almost certainly the father of this clump of Haldemans in Cabarrus and Rowan counties. She believes this Abraham who was buried by Pastor Storch to be an Abraham Krey Haldeman of Pennsylvania, brother of John Krey Haldeman and Nicholas Haldeman, the latter of which apparently also migrated to North Carolina from Pennsylvania. She writes:

"The brother of my possible ancestor John Krey Haldeman was Abraham Krey Haldeman. He was supposed to have moved out of Pennsylvania, probably after the Rev. War. His brother Nicholas Haldeman supposedly went to North Carolina as well. I think this is Abraham, father of Christian. This Abraham’s father was Christian and Mennonite naming patterns means you name the first son after his grandfather. So Abraham named his son Christian after his father. Christian then named a son Abraham after his father."

 She also sent a biographical sketch of an Eli Eddlemann from "History of Alexander, Union, and Pulaski Counties, Illinois", edited by William Henry Perrin. He married a daughter of the aforementioned younger Abraham Halterman, son of Christian of Rowan County, likely son of the elder Abraham. 

"He was married in 1852 in this county to Miss Mary L. Halterman.  A native of N. Carolina born September 24, 1827 and came to Union Co with her parents in 1850. ...Mrs  Eddleman’s father was Abraham Halterman, a native of N. Carolina and born in 1800.  He was a farmer and carpenter and in 1852 built the County Court house at Concord N.C.  and in 1850 came to Union Co. ILL.  He was a large landholder owning some 2500 acres.  He died in 1853   His father was Christian Halterman a native of Pennsylvania but an early emigrant to North Carolina."

This sketch further points to the probability that Christian was a brother of Mary/Susannah, Hannah, and probably Elizabeth as well. The only other way I know of to try and learn more about the family of Mary/Susannah, or at least confirm assumptions, is by looking at DNA evidence. Once again, I will look at Ronnie Moose's DNA results to see if they lend credence to the assertion that Mary Eagle Ribelin's mother was a Haldeman/Halterman of Pennsylvanian Mennonite descent.

I have decided to search through Ronnie's results using six different variations of the name: Haldeman, Halderman, Holdeman, Holderman, Halterman, and Holterman. Each search yielded matches of varying degrees of confidence with the exception of Holterman, which yielded no results. I will not be looking at the many results with "Low" and "Very Low" confidence; I will focus only on those with "Moderate" or higher confidence.

Under these parameters, I came up with six promising matches. The most intriguing of which was to user Forcumjr. He descends from a Joseph Halterman who died in Davie County, NC in October 1845, and who married his wife, Rosanna Tate, in none other than Rowan County on 10 Jun 1829. The bondsman for their marriage was a Frederick Stirewalt. And who did Abraham, son of Christian, marry? Why, he married Enny Stirewalt on 1 Jan 1825 in Rowan County. I believe Joseph was likely another son of Christian, and with Ancestry's Moderate confidence that this user is a 5th-8th cousin of Ronnie, it appears even more likely that Mary Eagle Ribelin's mother was indeed a Haldeman who was likely a sister of Christian. 

Four of the remaining five matches are of "Moderate" confidence, and they all seemingly connect back to the Haldeman/Holderman families in the areas of Bucks and Chester counties, Pennsylvania.

1. User Dobisearch descends from a Magdalene Halderman who married Henry Showalter. The Showalters were from Chester County, PA.

2. User lwendell183 descends from a Susanna Haldeman who married John O. Fretz and died in Bucks County in 1875. She was a daughter of a John Haldeman who came to Bucks County from Plymouth County, Massachusetts. He was the son of a John Haldeman b. 1694 who married a Rebecca Nightengale. 

3. User Linda84 descends from a Catherine Holdeman who was from Ohio and Indiana. She was the daughter of a David Holdeman who was born in Ohio and died in Kansas in 1905. He was the son of a Christian Holdeman who died in Wayne County, Ohio and was born in Bucks County, PA. He was the son of a John Holdeman who died in Bucks County, PA in 1813. The user lists him as the son of another John who was the son of yet another John.

4. User ThomasCJenkins descends from the same Magdalene Halderman who married Henry Showalter as the above-mentioned user "Dobisearch". He has Magdalene as a daughter of Nicholas Haldeman and Catherine Gueldin. He has this Nicholas as the son of another Nicholas who died Chester County, PA in Sep 1762. He has Nicholas as the son of a Michael Haldeman. 

The last Halterman DNA match is an intriguing one in a different way. This user, denshebailey1, connected to Ronnie with 96% certainty that they are 4th-6th cousins. His Halterman family, however, do not appear to have been Mennonite in origin. He descends from a Catherine Halterman who married a Solomon White. She was a daughter of Adam Halterman and Sarah Peck, and they were from Pendleton County, Virginia. Adam's father was apparently a Charles Halterman who he has as being born in Germany and marrying an Elizabeth Huffman. How accurate this is I can't be sure without delving into this family, but it is an interesting connection nonetheless. It is also possible that we connect to this user through a line other than the Halterman family, a possibility with every one of these matches. 

However, the sheer number of matches with moderate confidence seems to point to the probability that Mary Eagle Ribelin was indeed the daughter of a Haldeman, and I will keep that assertion in my records until proven otherwise.

A final note: Some online Eagle genealogies attribute a handful of other children to George b. 1781 and his wife. They list a Daniel b. 1805, "Katie Anna" (some with no birth date, some with date of 18 May 1818), Noah b. 14 Jul 1819, and Anna Maria b. 22 Jun 1823. Please note that there is absolutely zero proof that any of these children existed, they are most likely figments of the imagination of some long-gone researcher. Daniel is the only "real" possibility as George does have a son under age 10 in his 1810 household, but there is no proof of this child's name, if he was indeed George's child. 

I hope this post will be of help to Eagle researchers. Please feel free to e-mail me or leave comments with any other thoughts or information.

Sunday, March 16, 2014

Richard Crump of Bedford County, Virginia

I have recently been conducting research on the family of Richard Crump, who died in 1789 in Bedford County, Virginia. I believe him to be my direct ancestor, and I want to gather as complete a picture of his family as I can before attempting to see if I can discover his parentage.

Richard Crump died intestate in 1789 in Bedford County, Virginia. Neither his estate account nor his estate inventory provide the names of any of his children; all they do is provide the name of his wife: Susanna. Susanna is listed in several genealogies as Susanna Wilkinson, Wilkenson, or Wilkerson, a supposed daughter of a Thomas by the same last name, but this has not been proven. Likewise, Susanna's will does not divulge the names of any of her progeny with the exception of her son Fendall, whom she named the administrator of her estate. Records other than probate were then consulted in order to piece together the family.

The names of Richard and Susannah's earliest children can be gleamed from St. Peter's Parish Register in New Kent Count, Virginia (http://www.vagenweb.org/newkent/stpete08.html). Those records, along with marriage, tax, and chancery records, among others, were consulted in creating the following listed of children for Richard and Susanna Crump of Bedford County, VA:

1. Daniel Crump, b. 13 Aug 1754 - Some list him as a David Crump who supposedly married an Ann(e) Parke [sometimes listed as a Crump herself], but I have found no reason to believe that Richard's Daniel and this supposed David were one in the same. So as far as I am concerned, no further information on Daniel has been found.

2. Thomas Crump***, b. 5 Nov 1756 - m. Frances Taylor on 12 Feb 1785 in Cumberland County, VA

3. Lydall Crump, b. 28 Aug 1758 - Most Crump genealogies list him as Lydall Charles Crump. I have found no documentation or reason to believe that Lydall and Charles were the same person, so as far as I am concerned, no further information on Lydall has been found.

4. Elizabeth Crump, b. 10 Mar 1760 - m. William Campbell on 28 Feb 1785 in Bedford County, VA. Marriage record states she is a daughter of Richard.

5. Archelaus Crump, b. 13 Jan 1767 - Most Crump genealogies list him as George Archelaus Crump or Archelaus George Crump. I have found no documentation or reason to believe that Archelaus and George were the same person, so as far as I am concerned, no further information on Archelaus has been found.

6. Nancy Crump, b. about 1768 - m. John Guthrie on 29 Nov 1786 in Bedford County, VA. Marriage record states she is a daughter of Richard. An interesting narrative about the family of their son Charles who m. Margaret Dewitt, a granddaughter of Thomas Crump, can be found here: http://genealogytrails.com/ill/pike/pioneerguthrie.html

7. George Crump, b. about 1770 - m. Mary Gray on 23 Jun 1791 in Bedford County, VA. William Gray, Surety. An 1827 Chancery court case between George's daughter Sarah Crump Bramblett and her mother, Mary Gray Crump, names Susanna as George's mother.

8. Charles Crump, b. about 1772 - m. Rhoda Gray on 25 Dec 1798 in Bedford County, VA. William Gray, Surety.

9.Susanna Crump, b. about 1788 - m. Joseph Ledbetter on 28 Mar 1808 in Bedford County, VA. Fendall Crump, Surety.

10. Mary W. Crump, b. about 1776 - m. Alexander Gray on 9 Dec 1792 in Bedford County, VA. Marriage record states she is a daughter of Susanna. Charles Crump, Surety.

11. Fendall Crump, b. about 1778 - m. Elizabeth Griffith on 17 Sep 1803 in Botetourt County, VA. Named the administrator of his mother Susanna's estate in her will.

12. Richard Walker Crump, b. about 1779 - m. Susanna Akers on 19 Oct 1813 in Montgomery County, VA. [She is listed as Susan Acres on marriage record.]

13. Frances Crump, b. about 1785 - m. James Boyd Dooley on 21 Oct 1805 in Bedford County, VA. Fendall Crump, Surety.

Other sources:

1. 1800 Tax List for Bedford County, VA: http://www.binnsgenealogy.com/VirginiaTaxListCensuses/1800index/1800C-index14.htm
Includes Susanna, Charles, Fendall, George, Thomas, and Walker

2. Buford v. Grayham, Crump, et. al. (Bedford County, VA Chancery Court Case: http://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/full_case_detail.asp?CFN=019-1798-008#img)
Includes statements from Susanna Crump, widow of Richard, Elizabeth Crump Campbell, Nancy Crump Guthrie, and George Crump


Possible children:

Joshua Crump - Joshua Crump is listed on the 1790 tax roll of Bedford County. According to his pension application, he was residing in Bedford County throughout the Revolution. He migrated to Hart County, Kentucky in 1895 where he remained most of his life until migrating to Boone County, MO where he died in 1836. His pension mentions that he served as a substitute for a John P. Crump, who was from New Kent County, but other than that I have found no other indications of whom he may be connected to. His name is not found in the St. Peter's Parish register, though his pension states he was born in New Kent County. His pension states he was born in 1765 so it is plausible based on his age and geographic proximity that he could be a son of Richard and Susanna, there is no tangible proof other than geographic proximity in Bedford County. Most Crump genealogies attach him to John Crump (s/o William Crump and Mercy Saunders) and Martha Crump (d/o Joseph Crump and Cassandra Moore). If this is true, it would likely make Joshua a nephew of Richard rather than a son, as Richard was most likely a son of Joseph Crump and Cassandra Moore. However, I have found no definitive proof attaching him to John and Martha Crump either. (Pension: http://revwarapps.org/s30352.pdf)

Judah Crump - A Judah Crump was born to a Richard Crump on 29 Oct 1760 according to St. Peter's Parish Register. The entry does not state who the mother was, and there was more than one Richard in the area at the time. Additionally, this Judah would have been born only seven and a half months after Elizabeth Crump, which makes it unlikely that she belonged to this Richard. Judah is listed as Richard's child in a number of Crump genealogies, but it seems unlikely to me that she fits here, though it is within the realm of possibility.

***It should be noted that there were two Thomas Crump's living in Bedford County in the 1780's and 1790's. A Thomas Crump who as far as I can tell has not been placed in any Crump families married a Pamelia Thorpe on 26 Feb 1787 in Campbell County, VA. Based on his marriage in Campbell County, he is most likely the Thomas Crump who paid taxes there in 1791. (Although he is mentioned in some Bedford County Chancery Court records in 1790 in court cases related to the Thorp family, it is not stated in those records specifically where he is residing.) He died circa 1798 leaving a daughter, Elizabeth Calloway Crump. His widow Pamelia remarried to Arthur Mosely on May 10, 1799. Elizabeth married Arthur's son, John Mosely, on July 2nd, 1803 with the permission of John Trigg, a relative of Nancy Trigg who was the first wife of Arthur Mosely. More on the Mosely family can be found here: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:B0iK-f7RmZAJ:whitlockfamilyassociation.com.s3.amazonaws.com/sources/references/R2504.pdf+&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us As stated, it is unknown where this Thomas Crump fits into the expansive Crump family tree, but he was not a son of Richard of Bedford County. He has been ruled out as being Richard's son primarily because Thomas's close geographic association with Nancy Crump Guthrie (they both moved from Bedford County, Virginia to Washington and Mercer Counties, Kentucky) and the multiple marriages between their respective descendants. (One of Thomas's sons married one of Nancy's daughters, and one of Nancy's sons married one of Thomas's granddaughters.) I did find more than one online genealogy somehow claiming that this Thomas died in 1798...and then "magically" was still living, married to Frances Taylor, and then died in Washington County, Kentucky. 

It should be further noted that the Thomas Crump, son of Richard and Susanna, has also been confused with a Thomas Crump of King William and Chesterfield Counties. (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=pcrump&id=I269) There is no documentation that shows any sort of relationship between this Thomas Crump and the Crump's of Bedford County.

Grandchildren of Richard and Susanna Crump:

[Note: This will not be a complete list, but rather a compilation of information I have collected in my search for children of Richard and Susanna. This will not include Dooley, Ledbetter, Gray, Guthrie, or Campbell grandchildren, only those with the surname Crump.]

2. Thomas Crump m. Frances Taylor on 12 Feb 1785 in Cumberland County, VA. He died 5 Jan 1833 in Washington County, KY (Source, his Revolutionary Pension file: http://revwarapps.org/s15394.pdf) Their known children were:

A. Daniel Crump - Named as his son in pension file - b. 1788 in Virginia, d. 15 Nov 1858 in Jackson County, MO. m1. Elizabeth Fisher. m2. Jane Cox. Buried with both of his wives and his children Lucy Ann, Samuel T., Sophia [Montogmery], Susannah [Little], and Elizabeth [Fisher]. http://files.usgwarchives.net/mo/jackson/cemeteries/lobb.txt

B. Mary "Polly" Crump - Named as daughter in pension file - b. 1802 in Virginia; d. 28 Sep 1863 in Pike County, IL. m. Ira Briscoe. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=93351243

C. Margaret P. Crump - Consent of her father, Thomas, given at time of marriage - b. about 1792 in Virginia, d. before 1820 in Kentucky. m. Elisha Dewitt on 5 May 1808 in Bedford County, VA. Her daughter, Frances, was raised by Thomas and married her mother's 1st cousin, Charles Guthrie, s/o Nancy Crump Guthrie.

D. Sophia Crump - Listed as daughter of Thomas on marriage record - m. Jacob Booker on 26 Dec 1808 in Bedford County, VA. Brother Daniel listed as surety.

E. Richard Walker Crump - m. Elizabeth Guthrie on 27 May 1824 in Mercer County, KY. Elizabeth was Richard's 1st cousin, d/o Nancy Crump Guthrie. He was born 29 May 1800 in Virginia and died 17 Feb 1872, according to his headstone, in Linn County, Missouri.

Possible child: Rebecca "Becky" Crump - I find her listed as a child of Thomas and Frances in several online genealogies, but have found no documentation to show her existence. I have not seen anyone list a spouse for her, and most just say that she died before 1827. If proof of her existence comes to light, I will add her as a child of Thomas, but until then, I am only listing her as a potential child.

7. George Crump - m. Mary Gray on 23 Jun 1791 in Bedford County, VA. Three Crump siblings married three Gray siblings; George's sister Mary married Alexander Gray, and his brother Charles married Rhoda Gray. George's widow Mary is listed as the head of household in the 1820 Census in Bedford County, so George died prior to 1820. An 1827 Chancery Court case where George's daughter Sarah Crump is disputing a portion of her father's divided estate, centered around a slave who had given birth to two additional children, that slave apparently having originally been given to George from the estate of his mother Susanna Crump, widow of Richard. The case named all of George's living heirs as defendants.

A. Sarah "Sally" Crump - m. Jesse A. Bramblett on 18 Dec 1820 in Bedford County, VA. Burkett Gray, surety. Born about 1794 in Bedford County, Virginia.

B. Susanna Crump - Often listed as "Susan E" and "Susan W" in family trees. These trees state she died in Arkansas in 1852, but they offer no sources nor do they name a spouse.

C. John Gray Crump - m. Elizabeth Watkins on 30 Apr 1827 in Jefferson County, Tennessee. Aforementioned 1827 Chancery Court case confirms that neither John nor his brother Abner were residing in Virginia at the time of the court case and were unable to represent thesmselves. John was born 13 Dec 1796 in Bedford County, Virginia and died 13 Aug 1891 in Boone County, Arkansas, according to his headstone.

D. Rhoda Crump - No information found other than mention in 1827 Chancery case.

E. William W. Crump - m. Susanna "Susan" Jourdan/Jordan on 18 Sep 1823 in Bedford County, VA. Born 1800 in Bedford County, VA. Died in 1875 in Monroe County, MO at the age of 75, according to son's biographical sketch: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~momonroe/history/chapter27.htm. Some online trees give his date of birth as 4 Dec 1800, but they do not provide the source of this date. Is in Monroe County for 1860 Census.

F. Abner Crump - Born about 1802 in Bedford County, Virginia. (Age given in 1850 Census). He is listed as an attorney in the 1850 Census, as is his brother John. Abner was also a census-taker for Harlan County in 1850.

G. Beverly Crump - m. Frances Gray on 26 Jan 1835 in Bedford County, VA. Born about 1804 in Bedford County, Virginia. Age from 1850 Census in Bedford County, VA.

Note: Many include a Nancy or Nancy Ann Crump as a child of George, or more precisely, a sister of John Gray Crump. This is because she and her husband Henry Shackleford married in Harlan County, Kentucky on 1 Apr 1801. Because both John Gray Crump and Abner Crump lived in Harlan County later on, people assumed the two to be siblings. However, Census records show that she was born in North Carolina (or Kentucky in some) about 1784, making her closer to the age of a sister of George than a daughter.

8. Charles Crump - m. Rhoda Gray on 25 Dec 1798 in Bedford County, VA. Charles's widow is listed as the head of household in the 1820 Census in Bedford County, so Charles died prior to 1820. Unfortunately, I have not been able to identify solid resources for identifying the children of Charles Crump, so we are left with logical deduction. There are only a few Crumps of Bedford County left, and as they don't appear to fit elsewhere, it appears being listed as the children of Charles is the last place for them. Fendall P., Charles G., and Wilkerson are clearly connected to one another;

A. Fendall P. Crump - d. about 1835 in Washington County, Missouri. He m. Martha Wingo on 15 Oct 1834 in Washington County, Missouri; she remarried to Harvey Sitton in 1837. They had one son, Fendall P. Crump born 22 Dec 1835 who died in 1917 and is buried in Crawford County, MO. This Fendall P. has been listed as a son of Fendall who d. 1823 on many trees, but I have not seen proof that the two were connected; he is not listed as a child of Fendall d. 1823 in Williamson County, TN guardianship records. The administrator of this Fendall's estate, according to this index: http://files.usgwarchives.net/mo/washington/history/washco01.txt, was Charles G. Crump, which seems to place him with this family.

B. Mary "Polly" G. Crump - m. John O. Hopkins on 18 Oct 1832 in Bedford County, VA. b. about 1809 in Bedford County, VA. In the census, she is found in Bedford in 1850, Montgomery in 1860, Bedford twice in 1870, and Bedford in 1880.

C. Wilkerson Crump - m. Elizabeth Cofer on 24 Jan 1829 in Bedford County, VA; surety, John C. Gray. Born about 1803 in Bedford County, VA. Wilkerson moved to Monroe County, MO, where his cousin William W. Crump migrated to. He can be found there in the 1850, 1860, and 1870 Censuses. He and his brother Charles are both cited in Missouri's Union Provost Marshal Papers: http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/provost/results.asp?txtName=&txtKeyword=&radSearch=BEG&selCounty=Monroe&offset=75

D. Charles G. Crump - b. about 1812 in Bedford County, VA. Named administrator of Fendall P. Crump's estate in Washington County, MO in 1835. Living with cousin Alfred Dooley, s/o Frances Crump, in 1850 in Lincoln County, TN. Living in Monroe County, MO in 1860 near his brother Wilkerson. His Oath of Allegiance to the Union can be found in Missour's Union Provost Marshal Papers.

11. Fendall Crump - m. first Elizabeth Griffith on 17 Sep 1803 in Botetourt County, VA. He m. second Martha Pope on 15 Apr 1815 in Williamson County, TN. Appears in 1820 Census in Williamson County, Tennessee. Fendall died intestate in 1823 according to the inventory of his estate. Guardian Records of Williamson County, Tennessee 1799-1832 names his surviving children: Charles C., Hannah, John C./O., Richard W., Sarah Ann W., and Seaton M. http://books.google.com/books/about/Guardian_Records_of_Williamson_County_Te.html?id=Z3DBKujNOT0C

A. Dr. Richard W. Crump - b. 9 Oct 1809 in Bedford County, Virginia, d. 15 Jul 1857 in McNairy County, TN, according to headstone. Obituary can be found here: http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollections/broadsides_bdstn012939/. Married Elizabeth Steadman.

B. Dr. Charles Cary Crump - b. 18 Nov 1817/8 in Tennessee, d. 7 Aug 1882 in Williamson County, Tennessee, according to a biographical sketch in "Reminiscences of the Early Settlement and Early Settlers of McNairy County, Tennessee". Obit: http://www.tngenweb.org/records/tn_wide/obits/nca/nca7-07.htm. Married first to Elizabeth Wright, second to Louise Ann Figures/Figuers Bailey on 17 Jun 1858 in Maury County, TN.

C. Hannah Crump - m. William H. Slaughter on 12 Oct 1825 in Williamson County, TN. She and her husband were named guardians of her brother Richard when their father died.

D. John O. Crump - m. Elizabeth Stanley on 24 Dec 1837 in Williamson County, TN; she died 7 Oct 1839 in Wayne County, TN. m. second Mary TennesseeKinnard/Kennard on 3 Jun 1841 in Williamson County, TN. Listed as John C. in early guardian records where Lemuel Pope was appointed his guardian, but is listed as John O. in all other records, including his obituary, marriage record, guardian records where he is appointed as a guardian, probate records involving his wife and children, records where he acts as bondsman, and more. He died 11 Sep 1849 in Williamson County, TN according to "The Western Weekly Review" out of Franklin TN: http://www.tngenweb.org/records/williamson/obits/wwr/wwr2-11.htm

E. Sarah Ann W. Crump - m. William M. Nolen on 24 Nov 1840 in Williamson County, TN.

F. Seaton M. Crump - According to online trees, he married a Martha Ellen Oates. No documentation of this marriage has been found. He is found in the 1860, 1870, and 1880 Censuses in Arkansas County, Arkansas, married to a Maria[h] and has two sons, David O. and Samuel.

12. Richard Walker Crump - m. Susanna Akers on 19 Oct 1813 in Montgomery County, VA. [She is listed as Susan Acres on the marriage record.] He is listed as Walker on the marriage record, as he is in the 1800 Bedford County tax list. In the 1820 Census, he is listed as Richard W. while still residing in Montgomery County. Virginia. After the death of Susanna's brother, Claybourne, Richard was named the guardian of his children (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~elyandra/b_akers2.htm). By 1830, he had migrated to Shelby County, Tennessee, where he is listed as "R. W. Crump" on the Census record. We can be sure it is the same Richard Walker from Montgomery County, Virginia because of a petition he wrote in 1832 in Shelby County asking for land compensation after his wife Susanna gave birth to triplets. (http://www.tn.gov/tsla/history/misc/petition10.pdf)

It is unknown what became of Richard after 1832. Neither he, nor his wife, nor his triplets are found in subsequent census records.

A. Mark C. Crump - b. 1832 in Shelby County, Tennessee

B. George W. Crump - b. 1832 in Shelby County, Tennessee

C. Esalilles Crump - b. 1832 in Shelby County, Tennessee